#189 – Planned Parenthood in Council Bluffs, IA
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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
1604 2ND AVE.
COUNCIL BLUFFS, IA 51501-3801
712-322-6650
TAPE – 189
(dialing sounds) (ringing 3X)
CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. Patty speaking. May I help you?
CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?
CLINIC: Yes, we do.
CALLER: Okay. How much does that cost?
CLINIC: $325 cash, Mastercard or Visa. And then if your blood type is negative, then it costs another $50.
CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, my friend actually told me that you have to be a specific age. Like I’ll be 14 in March. Is that all right?
CLINIC: You’d either need to have your family or your parent, one of your parents.
CALLER: Oh. Is there any way not to do that? Because like, the problem is, I can’t tell my parents because — well, my boyfriend’s 22. And we’re planning on getting married, but they hate him because they think he’s too old for me.
CLINIC: Well, honey, he is. What’s a 22-year-old man doing with a 14-year-old girl?
CALLER: Well, we’re in love. We’re going to get married.
CLINIC: Why — okay. (laughs) You know what that would be like? That would — a 22-year-old man is much too old. He’s much more mature. He’s had way too much experience to be with a 14-year-old. Why isn’t he with a 22-year-old woman?
CALLER: Because we’re in love. I mean, I don’t — I don’t understand. But —
CLINIC: Okay. Yeah, he is too old. But we can’t get into that. And besides, that is rape. That’s statutory rape.
CALLER: What? What do you mean? I don’t understand. We’re in love. How is that — that —
CLINIC: By the law he cannot have sex with you, hon. It’s rape.
CALLER: But we’re in love. We’re going to get married. I don’t —
CLINIC: It doesn’t matter. You’re 14 and he’s 22. That’s rape.
CALLER: Could he get in trouble or anything?
CLINIC: Yes. He could go to prison.
CALLER: Well, what am I going to do? What are you — I don’t. What do I do?
CLINIC: Umm. I — you know, I don’t know. You can maybe get a judicial bypass.
CALLER: Okay. What’s that?
CLINIC: You’d have to talk to a lawyer.
CALLER: Okay.
CLINIC: And go in front of a judge.
CALLER: Okay. Well, how much does that cost?
CLINIC: That’s free.
CALLER: And I don’t — I have to get a lawyer, or —
CLINIC: No. Planned Parenthood will get the lawyer for you. You’d go in front of a judge with the lawyer, and the judge would talk to you. If he thought that you were mature enough, then he would go ahead and let you get the termination without your parents knowing it.
CALLER: Okay.
CLINIC: Okay?
CALLER: But they wouldn’t have to say anything like about my boyfriend or anything?
CLINIC: You know, I don’t know. I don’t know what he’ll ask you or what he’ll — you know, I’ve never gone through one so I don’t know what he’d ask.
CALLER: Oh. What if the judge says no? What do I do then?
CLINIC: Then you’re — you just have to have it.
CALLER: Have?
CLINIC: The baby. You can’t get a termination.
CALLER: But then my parents will find out.
CLINIC: Well, yeah.
CALLER: Okay. Well, like, what would I do? I don’t know what to do.
CLINIC: What do you mean you don’t know what to do?
CALLER: Well, if my parents find out I would get in — I don’t even know what they would do.
CLINIC: Um-hum.
CALLER: And I don’t want my boyfriend to go to prison.
CLINIC: Well, he knows — but he knows this. He knows that he’s, he’s committing statutory rape.
CALLER: But he, he never said anything.
CLINIC: Well, honey, that’s because he’s 22, and he just wants to have a young girl and to sleep with.
CALLER: But we’re in love. I don’t — I mean, he’s, he’s a nice guy. I don’t understand what you mean.
CLINIC: Because he’s 22 years old.
CALLER: But —
CLINIC: And you’re 14. That would be like you dating an 8-year-old. Could you love an 8-year-old?
CALLER: Well —
CLINIC: And have intercourse with an 8-year-old?
CALLER: Well, no, but —
CLINIC: Okay. And what kind of company would an 8-year-old be with you, for you? Wouldn’t you want to be with somebody your own age that’s 14?
CALLER: I don’t —
CLINIC: He’s 22. He can go out to the bars, he can drink, he can — you know, he’s got a driver’s license. You’re a child. He’s a man. He’s a 22-year-old man. You guys have nothing in common.
CALLER: Well, can we come in and talk to you?
CLINIC: No. I’m a mandatory reporter, and I’d have to report you, report it as a rape.
CALLER: Oh.
CLINIC: Okay?
CALLER: Okay.
CLINIC: My best — I mean, if I was you, and I know you’re probably in love because you’re 14, but you can be in love — you’ll probably in love six times in your lifetime if not 10. (laughs) It just happens. You know? Because you’re 14. And I know you think you know that you’re madly in love and there will never be another man out there for you, but it’s not — there will be.
CALLER: Okay.
CLINIC: You know?
CALLER: Well, is it okay if like he brings me in for like a pregnancy test because I don’t know how else I would get there.
CLINIC: How do you know — I mean, you haven’t had a pregnancy test so you don’t know if you’re pregnant?
CALLER: No. I did a home pregnancy test, but I don’t know if it’s —
CLINIC: And that showed positive?
CALLER: Yeah.
CLINIC: Well, then you probably are.
CALLER: Oh. They’re like —
CLINIC: Um-hum.
CALLER: I just wanted to make sure that someone else — like I just don’t know if I did it right.
CLINIC: Okay. It’s really, really hard to get a false positive pregnancy test.
CALLER: Oh. So —
CLINIC: Okay?
CALLER: But you guys wouldn’t be able to do that, or —
CLINIC: We could go ahead with a pregnancy test. That costs $10 cash.
CALLER: Okay.
CLINIC: But I wouldn’t suggest him bring you in. I surely wouldn’t suggest that you tell anybody that he’s 22 because like I say we’re mandatory reporters.
CALLER: Okay.
CLINIC: That’s sexually abuse and statutory rape, and I would have to call the police.
CALLER: Oh.
CLINIC: And report it.
CALLER: Well, if I had a pregnancy test would you have to tell anybody about that?
CLINIC: No.
CALLER: No? Okay. Well, like if, say like after the pregnancy test there and it was negative, or whatever, do you guys do birth control?
CLINIC: Yes, we do.
CALLER: And you wouldn’t have to tell anybody about that?
CLINIC: No.
CALLER: Okay.
CLINIC: Just don’t come in here and tell us that you’re with a 22-year-old man.
CALLER: All right.
CLINIC: Because once you do that, then, you know all bets are off. We have to turn that in.
CALLER: Okay.
CLINIC: Think about what I’m telling you. Okay?
CALLER: Oh. All right.
CLINIC: All right? Because like I said, you’re going to fall in love a million times in your lifetime. And, you know, and there’s something wrong with him being 22 years old that wants to be with a 14-year-old girl.
CALLER: Oh.
CLINIC: All right?
CALLER: And your name was Patty?
CLINIC: Yes.
CALLER: All right. Okay.
CLINIC: All righty.
CALLER: Thanks.
CLINIC: Bye bye.
CALLER: Bye.
(phone clicks)
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#186 – Planned Parenthood in Creston, IA
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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
907 W. TOWNLINE ST.
CRESTON, IA 50801-1126
641-782-8244
TAPE – 186
(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)
CLINIC: Hi. This is Deb at Planned Parenthood’s Creston Center. How may I help you?
CALLER: Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?
CLINIC: No, I’m sorry. We don’t. We would need to refer you to one of our centers, either in Des Moines or Iowa City.
CALLER: Okay. Do you have that number?
CLINIC: Sure. Do you want the number for Des Moines?
CALLER: Yeah.
CLINIC: Okay. The number, they have an 800 number. It’s 1-800-568-2404.
CALLER: Okay. Do you know — like my friend told me that you guys have to tell my parents before I can have an abortion. Is that true?
CLINIC: Are you under 18?
CALLER: I’ll be 14 in March.
CLINIC: Okay. Well, the state of Iowa requires that parents be notified, parent or grandparent be notified. But if you’re unable to do that, if you don’t have anybody you can notify and you don’t feel that you can notify —
CALLER: Yeah. There’s no way that they can find out. Because my boyfriend’s 22, and we’re planning on getting married, but like they hate him because they think he’s too old for me. So they can’t find out at all.
CLINIC: Okay. What you’d need to do then is, you do have the option of going before a judge, going through the court system.
CALLER: Okay. Do I need like a lawyer for that?
CLINIC: Well, no. What they do, when you call Des Moines what they’ll do is, they’ll hook you up with the Youth Law Center, and they provide representation for you. It doesn’t cost you anything.
CALLER: Oh, okay.
CLINIC: You’re a minor. But what I would do is call Des Moines first and tell them your situation, and they’ll get you hooked up with who you need to talk to.
CALLER: What if the judge says no?
CLINIC: Well, they don’t usually.
CALLER: Oh, all right.
CLINIC: — experiences, they usually approve them.
CALLER: Okay.
CLINIC: So like I say, I would just give Des Moines a call and they’ll kind of work with you from there.
CALLER: Do you think it would be all right like if my boyfriend took me to the court and was there with me?
CLINIC: I don’t know. Like I say, that would be something I would ask them at the Youth Law Center when they had you call there.
CALLER: Okay.
CLINIC: They can advise you what would be the best way to handle that.
CALLER: Okay. Well do you guys do the pregnancy tests there?
CLINIC: We could do the testing. Yeah. We could do the pregnancy test here, and —
CALLER: And you wouldn’t have to tell anybody or anything?
CLINIC: No, that’s strictly confidential.
CALLER: Okay.
CLINIC: That doesn’t require that parents know about that.
CALLER: Would my boyfriend be able to bring me and everything?
CLINIC: Yeah.
CALLER: And you guys wouldn’t have to tell anybody about him either?
CLINIC: No.
CALLER: All right.
CLINIC: I mean, like I say, I don’t think — we could do the pregnancy test. That would be confidential.
CALLER: Okay. My boyfriend was also wondering about birth control. Do you guys do that there?
CLINIC: Yes, we do. I mean, we can’t provide you birth control if you’re already pregnant.
CALLER: Oh. Well —
CLINIC: Do you think you are?
CALLER: Well, I think so.
CLINIC: But you’re not sure yet? Have you done a home test or anything?
CALLER: I did one over the weekend.
CLINIC: Was it positive?
CALLER: Yeah.
CLINIC: Oh, okay. Yeah, you would not be able — like I say, you’d have to get that after you’re had, you know, had had an abortion. Then you could get birth control.
CALLER: Oh. But you guys —
CLINIC: We can’t give you birth control if you’re pregnant already.
CALLER: Oh. Well, is it all right like if he picked up the pills and everything?
CLINIC: Picked up what pills? Birth control pills?
CALLER: Yeah.
CLINIC: Yeah. I mean, if you’re not pregnant and you want to get an exam, we can make an appointment to do that. Do you want to schedule an appointment?
CALLER: Well, I’d have to call —
CLINIC: You can’t get birth control pills without getting an exam and have somebody give you instructions on and stuff.
CALLER: Oh, okay.
CLINIC: As for the boyfriend, you’d have to come in and be seen.
CALLER: But you guys wouldn’t have to tell anybody about birth control or anything?
CLINIC: No. No. The only time that it’s required that parents be notified is when a minor wants an abortion.
CALLER: Oh, okay. So let me call my boyfriend and see when he can get off work. But is it all right if I call back?
CLINIC: Yeah. You can call back. Sure.
CALLER: Okay.
CLINIC: Okay.
CALLER: Thanks.
CLINIC: Bye.
CALLER: Bye.
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#116 – Planned Parenthood in Des Moines, IA
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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
10534 NEW YORK AVE.
DES MOINES, IA 50322-3775
515-276-8005
TAPE – 116
(Dialing, phone ringing)
CLINIC: Planned Parenthood, Des Moines West. This is Denessa (sp).
CALLER: Hi. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.
CLINIC: Not at this location. We do them at the central location.
CALLER: Oh, okay. Do you have the number for that?
CLINIC: Yeah. It’s 280-7002.
CALLER: Can I ask a question?
CLINIC: Okay. I might not know the answer, but okay.
CALLER: Okay. Well, like my friend told me that you guys have to tell my parents before I can have an abortion. Is that true?
CLINIC: There are certain rules about it. I would actually just call Central and go over it with them. Because we do them here, so we really don’t know very much about them.
CALLER: Oh. Well, it’s just like I can’t tell my parents because my boyfriend’s 22. And we’re going to get married and everything, but they can’t stand him because they think he’s too old for me so.
CLINIC: And how old are you?
CALLER: I’ll be 14 in March.
CLINIC: Oh. Okay. (short pause) All right. Well, like I said, we don’t do anything with them here, so we don’t know how stiff any of the rules are. We don’t know really anything about it. I would just call and talk to them down there.
CALLER: Do you guys do birth control there?
CLINIC: Yeah, we do.
CALLER: And would you guys have to tell my parents about that?
CLINIC: No.
CALLER: So you wouldn’t have to tell anybody at all?
CLINIC: Nope.
CALLER: All right. Well, if my boyfriend has questions, can I call you back about like birth control later.
CLINIC: Um-hmm.
CALLER: Okay. Well what was your name?
CLINIC: Denessa.
CALLER: All right. Okay.
CLINIC: Okay?
CALLER: Okay, thanks.
CLINIC: You’re welcome.
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#117 – Planned Parenthood Central Clinic in Des Moines, IA
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PLANNED PARENTHOOD – CENTRAL CLINIC
PO BOX 4557
DES MOINES, IA 50306-4557
515-280-7000
TAPE – 117
(Dialing, phone ringing)
CLINIC: Planned Parenthood Central. This is Bethany. Can I help you?
CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?
CLINIC: Uh-huh.
CALLER: Yeah? Well, how much does that cost?
CLINIC: It depends on how far along you are.
CALLER: Okay. Well, like how do you know?
CLINIC: Do you know the first day of your last normal menstrual period?
CALLER: It was like the first week in December.
CLINIC: December? Okay. So right now you’re probably a little over 10 weeks, almost 11 weeks along. At 13 weeks, the full cost is $900. Do you have insurance?
CALLER: Well, my boyfriend said he would pay for it.
CLINIC: Okay. So you’re not going to use insurance. The full cost, like I said, is going to be 400 — or $900. When you don’t have insurance or insurance that won’t cover, we give you a 50 percent discount off that, which makes it $450. And that is all due when you come in.
CALLER: Oh, okay. So like is there any age limit for having an abortion or anything?
CLINIC: Nope, it doesn’t matter how old you are. But if you’re under the age of 18, you either need to have your parent with you or you need to —
CALLER: Like, I can’t tell my parents. They’re —
CLINIC: Then you’d have to go in front of a judge to do it.
CALLER: Okay. What do I have to go to a judge for?
CLINIC: Because— Are you under the age of 18, I’m guessing?
CALLER: Well, I’ll be 14 in March.
CLINIC: You’ll be what?
CALLER: I’ll be 14 in March.
CLINIC: Okay. So you’re under the age of 18.
CALLER: Yeah.
CLINIC: It means that you’re not an adult. You’re a minor. So it’s a illegal in the state of Iowa to do it without parental notification. You can go in front of a judge. We prefer you to talk to your parents though.
CALLER: But I can’t. Like my boyfriend’s 22. And we’re going to get married and everything. But they can’t find out because they hate him. They think he’s too old for me. And there’s just no way that they can find out or anything.
CLINIC: Okay. Then once you make your appointment, we’d give you the phone number to the Youth Law hotline, and you’d have to go in front of a judge and prove to a judge that you’re mature enough to be making this decision on your own.
CALLER: What if the judge says no?
CLINIC: Then you’re going to have to tell your parents.
CALLER: All right. And there’s no way around that at all?
CLINIC: No. It’s a state law.
CALLER: So what if my boyfriend says it’s all right?
CLINIC: Yeah, that’s fine. (laughs) But that’s not your parents.
CALLER: So my boyfriend can’t say, well, it’s all right, and you guys wouldn’t have to tell my parents then?
CLINIC: No. Because you are not 18, the state of Iowa law says that you need to either have your parents with you or you need to go in front of a judge and let a judge decide.
CALLER: Okay.
CLINIC: Okay?
CALLER: Do the judges always say no?
CLINIC: Do they always say no?
CALLER: Yeah.
CLINIC: Um-um. I don’t know if I’ve had someone as young as you go in front of the judge, so I don’t know. That might make a difference.
CALLER: Okay.
CLINIC: But I don’t know. I can’t say. I mean, I would definitely prefer you to talk to your parents.
CALLER: Okay. But nobody’s going to say anything about my boyfriend?
CLINIC: I don’t know. (laughs) I have no idea. That’s up to a judge too, I guess. (laughs) I don’t know. That he’s that much older than you, I don’t know how a judge is going to feel about that.
CALLER: Well, I just don’t want my parents to know about this.
CLINIC: Well, they shouldn’t know. There shouldn’t be any reason why they’d find out if you went in front of a judge. But if something went wrong or anything like that then —
CALLER: Do I have to tell the judge about my boyfriend?
CLINIC: I don’t— I don’t know how it’s done. I have never been there before.
CALLER: Does anyone know?
CLINIC: I can give you the number to the Youth Law hotline, and they can help you out more than I can.
CALLER: How much does that cost?
CLINIC: It’s free.
CALLER: Oh, okay. Would they tell anyone about my boyfriend?
CLINIC: I don’t know. It’s the Youth LAW hotline. I don’t know how they’re going to react to it.
CALLER: Well, say I wasn’t pregnant, and I came in to you guys, would you guys be able to do birth control or anything?
CLINIC: Um-hmm.
CALLER: And you wouldn’t have to tell anybody about that?
CLINIC: Right.
CALLER: Okay. So I would have to talk to my boyfriend. But can I call you back and ask you questions or anything if he’s got more?
CLINIC: Yep.
CALLER: Okay. What was your name?
CLINIC: My name is Bethany, but you can talk to anyone that’s here.
CALLER: Okay.
CLINIC: Okay.
CALLER: Okay, thanks.
CLINIC: Bye.
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#182 – Planned Parenthood in Des Moines, IA
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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
500 ARMY POST RD. # 17
DES MOINES, IA 50315-6240
515-285-6500
TAPE – 182
(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)
CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. Des Moines South.
CALLER: Hi. I was wondering, do you guys do abortions there?
CLINIC: Not at this clinic. You would need to contact the central location for that information.
CALLER: Okay.
CLINIC: Do you have their phone number?
CALLER: No.
CLINIC: It’s — you have pen and paper?
CALLER: Yeah.
CLINIC: It’s 280-7002.
CALLER: Well, do you know like if you have to be a certain age to have an abortion?
CLINIC: How old are you?
CALLER: I’ll be 14 in March.
CLINIC: You do need to notify a parent.
CALLER: Oh. Is there any way not to do that? Like if I told them they would totally flip out because like — well like the problem is, my boyfriend’s 22, and we’re in love, and we’re going to get married, but like they hate him because they think he’s too old for me.
CLINIC: Okay. You can contact the central location. They may be able to help you out with that.
CALLER: Okay.
CLINIC: But in the state of Iowa if you’re under 18 you’re required to give parental notification.
CALLER: And there’s no way around that at all?
CLINIC: You can contact the central location about that.
CALLER: Okay. Well, like do you guys do birth control there at all?
CLINIC: Yes, we do.
CALLER: Would you guys have to tell anybody about that?
CLINIC: Not for birth control.
CALLER: Okay.
CLINIC: But we can’t get you started on birth control if you’re already pregnant.
CALLER: Oh. Well, okay. But my boyfriend just doesn’t want anybody to know, so they wouldn’t have to tell anybody, right?
CLINIC: Are you currently pregnant?
CALLER: Well, I think so. I don’t know.
CLINIC: Well, if you’re pregnant you’ll need to take care of that before we can offer you any birth control.
CALLER: Oh, all right. Well, like do you guys do pregnancy tests there?
CLINIC: Yes, we do.
CALLER: Okay. Would you have to tell anybody about that?
CLINIC: No.
CALLER: Oh, okay.
CLINIC: Did you want to set up an appointment for a pregnancy test?
CALLER: Yeah.
CLINIC: Okay. I could have you come in next Monday.
CALLER: Okay.
CLINIC: What time can you come in?
CALLER: Well, I’d have to talk to my boyfriend to see what time is good for him, but I think probably like in the afternoon.
CLINIC: Okay. Do you want to check with him and give us a call back?
CALLER: Yeah. Is it okay if I — what was your name so that I can call you back?
CLINIC: You can contact any of us.
CALLER: Okay, well, is it okay if I call you because you’re just nice, so I don’t want to talk to anyone that’s mean.
CLINIC: My name’s Susan, but I can’t guarantee that I’ll be able to answer the phone.
CALLER: Oh, all right. Okay.
CLINIC: Okay?
CALLER: Thanks.
(phone clicks)
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