Child Predator Tapes: Maine

PLANNED PARENTHOOD
886 MAIN ST.
SANFORD, ME 4073-7008
207-324-9385

TAPE – 639

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CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Linda.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: Not in the Stanford Planned Parenthood, but I can give you the Portland Planned Parenthood’s number.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay? It’s 781- No. I’m sorry. I thought I knew it but I didn’t. It’s 797-8881.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And call them and they’ll be able to help you there, okay?

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know, like I’m just kind of worried because like, well I’m going to be 14 later on this month and my friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Well, that might make it a sticky situation, but call — I would recommend that you call over there and find out what they — because you’re 13?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: How — and you know you’re pregnant?

CALLER: Well, not really. I just — I’m scared because I haven’t had my period since like January 3.

CLINIC: Well, then do you want to come in here just for a pregnancy test?

CALLER: Well, yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. All right. So can you come in today?

CALLER: I don’t know. I would have to call my boyfriend to see if he can take me. But I don’t know. I’d have to call him to see.

CLINIC: Right. So 13 — today we could see you or Thursday morning.

CALLER: Well, would you have to tell anybody if I was getting a pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: If you did a pregnancy test — see, you’re how old again? You’re 13?

CALLER: I’m 13. I’ll be 14.

CLINIC: And I have to get a confirmation from the practitioner because I don’t really know for sure. Hold on a second, okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Can you hold on just a second?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Hi. I just talked to our practitioner and what she says that she recommended is that she wants you to come in just to, so you can talk to her in person and she can make sure that you’re healthy and that, you know, everything is going fine and we can rule out the pregnancy, okay?

CALLER: Alright.

CLINIC: And then she just wants to talk to you face to face and she would go over everything with you when you came here.

CALLER: Oh, okay. But if I come in would you have to tell anybody I was there?

CLINIC: It depends on — there are certain laws in the state of Maine and there are certain age limitations. That would be something, you know — it may be something they would have to report by law, but there’s not going to be anybody here waiting for you or, you know, anything like that if you came in.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You know what I mean?

CALLER: Yeah. I just don’t want anybody to know about this.

CLINIC: Right. Right. Did you do a home pregnancy test by any chance?

CALLER: No. I didn’t know if those were usually right.

CLINIC: You know, okay. So — well, they can be pretty accurate sometimes. It depends on the test that you choose and stuff like that, but I really — I mean, is there any way we can have you come in today?

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend would have to drive me. Would we get — like, would that be all right?

CLINIC: Yeah. He could come in. He could bring you here, and then she would talk to you, the practitioner would talk to you.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well —

CLINIC: What time does — is he at work or something?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: What time does he get out?

CALLER: Usually around 5.

CLINIC: Around 5:00? Would he be able to bring you a littler earlier than that, or —

CALLER: I would have to find out. I’m not sure.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: But if I ended up not being pregnant would I be able to get birth control?

CLINIC: Most likely yes. She would have you fill out your history form and we’d get you started on birth control. Now it all depends on what time. I mean, if he can’t — if you come in at 5:30 then probably not, because that’s — we don’t really have enough time open at that time.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: If we could actually schedule an appointment for you to come in a little bit earlier than that then it’s a good possibility that we’d be able to do the whole thing.

CALLER: But would anybody have to know if I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: We don’t notify your parents that you’re on birth control pills or anything like that.

CALLER: Would you have to tell anybody beside my parents though?

CLINIC: Well, see, as far as birth control goes, I’m really not sure of what the laws are.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: But Karen — she’s the practitioner that you would be talking to — and she knows more than I do about that. But she really wants you to come in so she can talk to you.

CALLER: Well, I don’t want to come in and my boyfriend get in trouble.

CLINIC: Right. Right. Let’s see. Yeah. Hold on again, okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Hi. This is Karen. Who am I speaking with?

CALLER: Hi. I’m Lisa.

CLINIC: You’re Alicia?

CALLER: Lisa.

CLINIC: Lisa? Hi, Lisa.

CALLER: Hi.

CLINIC: I’m the nurse practitioner that is here.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You have some concerns about your partner? Is that what I’m hearing?

CALLER: Well, I just — we love each other. We’re going to get married. But I don’t want him to get in trouble if I come in there to get a pregnancy test and whatever.

CLINIC: Well, unfortunately there are laws that we have to follow as providers. My first and foremost concern is your health. If you are 13 and if there is a possibility of pregnancy, then you’re at a higher risk at this stage if there is a pregnancy that’s happening because young adults that are pregnant can have more complications. So your health is very important to me. But I do have to — it is, the law is that I have to report if there’s anybody, if you’re below 14 years of age and sexually active, it is reportable. What happens after it’s reportable, however, is up to you and the folks that are dealing with this, because there are many different things that can happen, many different scenarios that happen. And I don’t know what all of those are. All I know is that my first and foremost, if I need to do this I talk to you about it. I tell you what it is that I know that is likely to occur, what the next steps are supposed to be, what it is that you can do so I can give you all of that information. But it’s — you know, I don’t have a guarantee about what’s going to happen and what’s not going to happen.

CALLER: Well, I just don’t want my boyfriend to be in trouble.

CLINIC: Right, and I understand that completely, but there’s just — you know, this is one of those things that if I don’t report I can also get into trouble. If we don’t at least have somebody acknowledge that that is what you’ve presented to me.

CALLER: Well, so it would be better if I don’t come in there?

CLINIC: Well, I would tell you that your health is very important to you, and I would say, no it’s not better that you don’t come in because you can get counseling and education and we could find out what it is that you really want to do.

CALLER: I don’t want — I just don’t want my boyfriend to get in trouble.

CLINIC: I understand. I understand that, but there’s — I can’t make any guarantees, so to be truthful with you — I want to be truthful with you — I can’t make any guarantees, but I know that there are certain processes that have to happen, but it doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s all going to be bad.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: But I can’t say that it’s all going to be good either.

CALLER: Oh. Well, then I don’t think I want to do this then.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Well, all right.

CLINIC: What I would encourage though is if you are, think that you are pregnant, I would like you to go and get a home pregnancy test.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Are those usually right though?

CLINIC: Yes. They’re usually pretty good. If there is a positive pregnancy test, then what you can do is you can call and we can provide information of where you can get AB services, abortion services, if you want to go that way.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Over the phone we can provide that.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: But I can’t guarantee that the people that you go to are not going to have some concern about this either.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Would it be better just not to tell them?

CLINIC: You know? I’m going to tell you again, as a healthcare provider absolutely not. You have to be honest so that we can address your health and your situation along the way. But I think that you can, if they ask if you have a supportive partner you could say yeah. I think that you certainly can choose your answers.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But I want you to be as honest as possible. I think that’s really important just to be as honest as you can because that allows us to treat you appropriately.

CALLER: So like if I tell him he’s 22, he’s going to go to jail?

CLINIC: Well, that’s not necessarily true. You know? It’s a process that you have to go through, and I’m not — you know, some folks, you know — I had to tell you that I’m not that familiar with what happens. I know that when you report it that there is an investigation that occurs. And then there’s — whether this sexual activity was consensual or nonconsensual.

CALLER: Well, yeah. I mean, we’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: Right. So I mean, and the law goes with certain things, so I can’t tell you which avenue that they’re — you know, what people are going to think or what goes down. All I know is that if you’re as honest as you can about it that there’s — you know, it’s out there and you don’t have to worry so much about it. And you’re not not seeking healthcare if you need it.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: That’s the most important thing, Lisa. I can’t stress that enough.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? Good luck.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Let us know what you want to do.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You take care.

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: All right. Bye bye.

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