#434 – Planned Parenthood in Fort Worth, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
301 S. HENDERSON ST.
FORT WORTH, TX 76104
817-332-9102

TAPE – 434

(dialing sounds) (ringing 3X)

CLINIC: Henderson Planned Parenthood. This is Merva (sp). May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how much does that cost?

CLINIC: $300.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know — Like I’m going to be 14 in March, and my friend said that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever it is and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. It’s got to be your legal guardian.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: Is there any way not to tell my parents at all, because they can’t find out.

CLINIC: You can go through a judicial bypass.

CALLER: What is that?

CLINIC: Which is you have to go to court — or not court. I mean, a judge has to sign the consent and all that, so in order for you to get the abortion.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do they ever say no or anything?

CLINIC: No, um-um.

CALLER: Oh. Well, would the judge have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: No. Um-um.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Let me give you a number for Jane Doe so you can call them and they see what they can do for you.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know how much a judicial bypass costs?

CLINIC: I don’t know. Um-um.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do I need like a lawyer or anything?

CLINIC: No, you don’t. Um-um.

CALLER: Oh. Well, could I come in there for a pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: Yeah, you can come in here for a pregnancy test.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And actually if it is positive, we do have to report it to the police department. Because you’re under 14 — I mean, because you’re 14. 14 and under we have to report it.

CALLER: Well, okay. Well, if it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant, would you guys have to tell on me?

CLINIC: No. Um-um. Only if it’s positive.

CALLER: Oh. Well, could I get birth control then?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: Would you have to tell anybody that I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh. Well, the only way I’d be able to get there is if my boyfriend brings me. Is that all right?

CLINIC: Okay, but if you — Okay, we can do the pregnancy test but you’re going to have to — If you want to get birth control pills or the depo, you have to get the well woman exam which is your pap smear in order to get all that. And for that you have to schedule an appointment. We take walk-ins only for pregnancy tests.

CALLER: Well, is it all right if like my boyfriend pays for everything?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: Would he have to sign anything though?

CLINIC: No, uh-uh.

CALLER: All right. Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: So but if the pregnancy test was positive you’d have to tell the police?

CLINIC: Yes, we have to report it.

CALLER: Oh. All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, would anything happen?

CLINIC: No, it won’t.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: It’s just that we have to do that. I mean — We just have to do it as a policy here, so.

CALLER: All right. Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: You’re welcome.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

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#435 – Planned Parenthood in Fort Worth, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
1555 MERRIMAC CIRCLE # 200
FORT WORTH, TX 76107-6566
817-882-1155

TAPE – 435

(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)

RECORDING: Thank you for calling Planned Parenthood. If you know your party’s extension, you may — (dial sound). One moment, please.

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Kathy.

CALLER: Hi. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: We don’t do them at this clinic, but we have an abortion line that you can call. And we do them at other clinics.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Let me give you the number. It’s 817-882-1175.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know, like — Well, I’m going to be 14 in March, and my friend told me that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just take care of it and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: There’s a way that you can — You need to call that number and they’ll explain it to you. But there’s a thing called a parental notification law. And they’re supposed to tell your parents. But if you feel like that it’s in your best interest — You have to be — It’s like a legal thing you have to go through, and it’s not very hard to do. People get scared off because there’s a legal issue and you have to go through the court system and see a judge. But what they do is, they will — If you tell them that you’re afraid of telling your parents because you might be, they may put you out or they may – for whatever reason. Then if the judge sees that you’re capable enough and that you are mature enough to make that decision on your own, he can bypass that law and give you the right to do that without parental notification.

CALLER: Well, do they ever say no, or anything?

CLINIC: Not usually. I mean, unless they see a circumstance where somebody’s coming in like every four or five months and she’s pregnant all the time and she’s trying to get an abortion every time. Then, you know, then that’s somebody that’s abusing — You know, we don’t want people to do that. That’s not why, a good form of birth control. You know what I’m saying?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: So, but call that number, and ask them, and they will explain everything to you and how it works.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Well, could I come in there for a pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: You can come in to any Planned Parenthood for a pregnancy test.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just my boyfriend gave me this number, and he would just want to go there.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, this one, the one that you called is — we’re just an administrative office, and we don’t do the pregnancy test. But the one — where do you all live?

CALLER: I live in Keller.

CLINIC: Oh, you live in Keller?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: The one that’s closest to you would probably be the one on Jacksboro Highway, or there’s one in Bedford too.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: But when you call that number, have them give you the other number so that you can call them, and they may be able to help you too.

CALLER: Well, does anybody have to know about like getting a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: No. Nobody has to know anything. You just walk in. You can be 10 years old and walk in and get a pregnancy test and nobody has to tell anybody.

CALLER: Oh, okay. All right.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Thanks. Bye bye.

CALLER: Thanks. Bye.

(phone clicks)

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#436 – Planned Parenthood in Fort Worth, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
6775 CAMP BOWIE BLVD.
FORT WORTH, TX 76116-7112
817-377-1234

TAPE – 436

(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood West. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t. Let me give you another phone number to call.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: 817-882-1175.

CALLER: Okay. Where is that exactly?

CLINIC: It’s one of the other Planned Parenthood clinics, Henderson.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, do you know like — I’m just worried because my friend told me that, well, since like I’ll be 14 in March, that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of everything?

CLINIC: Okay. You’re going to have to call them to answer those questions.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, could I could in there for a pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: Could you come in here?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Have you already taken a pregnancy test?

CALLER: No. I’m just worried because like I haven’t had my period since like December 21st.

CLINIC: Okay. Pregnancy tests here are $18.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Cash or credit card. Yeah. We could do your pregnancy test for you, sure.

CALLER: Okay. Well, my boyfriend said that he would pay for everything, but would he have to sign for anything?

CLINIC: No, not for a pregnancy test.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Did you want to come in today?

CALLER: Well, what time?

CLINIC: Could you be here this — I have a 12:00 open or this afternoon at 3:30 or 3:45.

CALLER: Probably later on this afternoon.

CLINIC: 3:30?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. What’s your last name?

CALLER: Smith.

CLINIC: And your first name?

CALLER: Christine.

CLINIC: Spell it?

CALLER: “C-H-R-I-S-T-I-N-E.”

CLINIC: And your birth date?

CALLER: It’s March 19, 1988.

CLINIC: Okay, and do you know where this clinic is?

CALLER: My boyfriend does. He’d be the only way I could get there. Would that be all right if he was there?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: He knows where we’re located?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Has he been here before?

CALLER: I don’t know. I don’t think so. I don’t know.

CLINIC: Okay. But he knows where we are?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: All right. And it’s $18 cash or credit card.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant, do you guys do birth control there?

CLINIC: Yeah. But we’d have to talk to you about setting up an appointment for an exam.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, if I was on birth control though would you have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right. Thanks.

CLINIC: Bye bye.

(phone clicks)


TAPE – 436 Pt 2: The Call Back

(dialing sounds) (ringing)

CLINIC: Planned Parent West. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I just — Was I just talking to you?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: I was talking to my boyfriend just now and I don’t know that he can get the time off to take me. Would there be another day that I could come?

CLINIC: Yeah. Why don’t you call when you know that you can be here, and we’ll set up an appointment?

CALLER: Okay. Well, could I — Do I call and talk to you? What’s your name?

CLINIC: Well, anybody here can help you make the appointment, Christine.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? If you think you could be here tomorrow, we don’t open until 12:00. So you can call at 12:00 and tell us what time you can be here. And Wednesday we’re here at 9:00, you can call then.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if I call back later today, could I call and talk to you? What’s your name?

CLINIC: My name is Rosalind. Sure.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: And then, you know, we could set up the appointment for the pregnancy test. And if it turns out that you’re not pregnant, we can tell you about getting on birth control and how much the exam would be and all that.

CALLER: Well, how soon could I get on birth control?

CLINIC: Well, we could see you later on in the week, but your exam is going to range — are you a student?

CALLER: Well, I’m home-schooled.

CLINIC: Okay, and you’re 14?

CALLER: I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: Okay. Your exam — We could give you a student rate where your exam would be $44 and your pills would be $12 a pack.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: All right? So we can talk to you about that when we bring you in for the test. And if the test is negative, we could set up the appointment for later on in the week.

CALLER: Okay. Well, would it be all right if my boyfriend picked up the pills? Because I can’t drive.

CLINIC: Right. But you have to come here for the exam.

CALLER: Right. But like after that? Like?

CLINIC: Yeah. After that, okay, and you’re going to be 14 in March?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. Okay. Just call back when you can set up the appointment.

CALLER: Okay, thanks.

CLINIC: All right, Christine. Bye bye.

(phone clicks)

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#437 – Planned Parenthood in Fort Worth, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
3863 MILLER AVE.
FORT WORTH, TX 76119-2965
817-536-4942

TAPE – 437

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Thank you for calling Planned Parenthood. This is Sonja. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: Let me give you a number, okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: 817-882-1175. Okay?

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, do you know — It’s just I’m worried because like my friend told me that since, well, I’m going to be 14 in March, she said that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. Your parents have to be notified.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: Well, is there any way not to tell them at all? Like I don’t know what would happen if they found out.

CLINIC: When you call them, ask them what all you can do to do it, keep them from finding out.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, do you know like — Well, could I come in there for a pregnancy test then?

CLINIC: Yeah. They’re $15.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, would you guys have to tell anybody that I was getting a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: No. We don’t have to tell any — the only thing we have to tell is when you’re doing an AB.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay? So you’ll have to come in between 1:00 and 4:30. Okay?

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend can bring me. Is that all right if he’s there with me?

CLINIC: Yeah. That’s fine.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: He can’t come to the back until after we talk to you, and then after we talk to you he can come back there. Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Well, he said that he would pay for everything. Would he have to sign anything?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: So nobody has to know about him or anything?

CLINIC: Uh-uh.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: If it ended up that like after the pregnancy if it said that I wasn’t pregnant, would I be able to get birth control?

CLINIC: We can see if how many people show up. If a lot of people don’t show up we’ll let you stay.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? And the exams start at $35.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: But would you have to tell anybody —

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: — if I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: No. Nobody has to know.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay. And what was your name again?

CLINIC: Sonja.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

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#438 – Planned Parenthood in Fort Worth, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
2470 JACKSBORO HWY.
FORT WORTH, TX 76114-2201
817-625-2891

TAPE – 438

(dialing sounds) (ringing 7X)

CLINIC: Northside Planned Parenthood. Martha. Can you hold one second?

CALLER: Yeah.

(pause)

CLINIC: Thank you for holding. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: Not here at this clinic. I could give you the number.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: 882-1175.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: Where is that exactly?

CLINIC: It’s 817 the area code, and they’ll give you instructions.

CALLER: Okay. Well, I was actually talking to someone at a Ft. Worth number. It was Kathy, and she told me to talk to you guys about it.

CLINIC: Okay, but we don’t do them here at this clinic. That’s why I’m giving you that number. Just tell them that you need a number, that they do them here in Ft. Worth. Because this is not the number.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: It’s just I’m just worried because like I’m going to be 14 in March, and my friend told me that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is it all right if he takes care of it and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: I don’t have any information on that. Just call that number – 882-1175. They should be able to answer all your questions.

CALLER: Okay. Well, could I come in there for a pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: After for a pregnancy test or before?

CALLER: Like could I come in there for a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: I don’t know if I’m pregnant.

CLINIC: Yes, you can come in here from 1:00 to 3:00 today.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, would you have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No, we don’t. Everything’s confidential.

CALLER: Okay. Well, my boyfriend said that he would pay for everything. Would he have to sign anything?

CLINIC: I don’t know about that, about abortion. I don’t know about that.

CALLER: Well, like for the pregnancy test.

CLINIC: Oh, for the pregnancy test? He could pay.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: That’s not a problem.

CALLER: Well, he wouldn’t have to sign anything if he was paying for it?

CLINIC: No, he don’t have to sign. He don’t have to sign anything.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, do you guys do birth control there?

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Well, would you have to tell anybody that I was on birth control?

CLINIC: No. Everything’s confidential here.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, so it’s all right if like my boyfriend’s there with me for that too?

CLINIC: Well, not inside for your exam. He will come in, you know, for your visit but outside.

CALLER: Okay. Well, I just have so many questions and I’m confused. I don’t know what to do. But is it all right if like I call you back? What was your name?

CLINIC: You can go ahead and call us back.

CALLER: Okay. Well, what was your name?

CLINIC: Josie.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Okay, bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

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#787 – West Side Clinic in Fort Worth, TX

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WEST SIDE CLINIC
2011 LAS VEGAS TRAIL
FORT WORTH, TX 76108
817-246-2446

TAPE – 787

(Dialing, phone ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Westside Clinic. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: It depends how far along you are.

CALLER: How do you know? I’m not sure.

CLINIC: Okay. Do you know the first day of your last period?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: January the 3rd?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. You would probably be about almost 10 weeks.

CALLER: Okay. So how much would it be then?

CLINIC: Hold on, okay?

CALLER: All right.

(pause)

CALLER: Hi.

CLINIC: Okay. Your period was when did you say?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: January the 3rd.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: So that would be between 9 and 10 weeks. That would be $300. Up to 11 weeks will be $300. And it’s payable in cash or major credit card. And appointments are Tuesday through Saturday, and all appointments are in the morning. And all you have to do is call one day ahead of time to set up an appointment.

CALLER: Okay. Well, the thing is, my main worry is I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No, uh-uh. No. If you’re under age, you have to have a parent.

CALLER: Oh. Well, is there any way not to tell my parents?

CLINIC: Hold on, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

(short pause)

CLINIC: Can I help you?

CALLER: Uh-huh. Hi. Who is this?

CLINIC: This is Westside Clinic.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, I was talking to someone different.

CLINIC: Huh?

CALLER: I was wondering if I could get an abortion. Like I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend said that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No, no. We would have to have a parent. Do you live here in Fort Worth?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: And you’re 13?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: And you’re boyfriend’s 22.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. How far along are you? Do you know?

CALLER: The other lady said I was like 9 to 10 weeks.

CLINIC: Okay. What you’re going to have to do is come up here probably either tomorrow or Saturday. There’s a form that you’re going to have to fill out.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? And basically what it is, is you’re going to give me your name. And you’re going to have to send a certified letter to a parent.

CALLER: But I can’t tell my parents.

CLINIC: But if you just come here, what we need is an address to send a certified letter to. Even if the letter comes back to us, and it doesn’t get to the person it’s suppose to get to, once we wait 48 hours from when the letter went out, you can come in here and get a procedure.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay. Does that make sense?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay? All you have to do is come up here and give me your name on a form, and you just write down the name of the parent, and just put an address that this letter is going to go to. And then we’re going to send that letter out. And if that letter comes back to us, it doesn’t matter. Even if it comes back, it’s returned, it doesn’t get to your parents, we have to at least attempt to reach a parent. And after 48 hours, if we don’t hear anything from anybody or we get the letter back, we can schedule you for an appointment even though you’re under age.

CALLER: Okay. But you’re sure my parents wouldn’t find out that way?

CLINIC: Well, like I said, we have to at least attempt to reach a parent. And I have a hotline phone number that you can try to call if you want to. And it’s a way to go through the court to bypass — It’s like getting a waiver for parental rights and parental consent. And they can give you some information on what you could do to also get around telling your parents about it.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Do you want that phone number?

CALLER: Yeah, please.

CLINIC: Okay. Let me give you that phone number. And if you decide you want to come up here and fill out a form for us to send a letter to an address that you give us, you can still do that too. But you have to do it in person. You have to come up here.

CALLER: Oh. But if I go to the court or whatever, I don’t have to fill out the form?

CLINIC: Right. And they’ll tell you what you need to do if you go this way, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: It’s 1-866-999-5263.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? So call that number, and they can give you some more information on what you could do if you want to go through the court. Otherwise, if you decide to come up here and fill out that form, you just make sure you do it in the next few days so that we can send the letter Monday, and we can do the procedure next week.

CALLER: Okay. Well, the thing is me and my boyfriend were talking about all this, and he said he would pay cash for everything. But we don’t want anyone to know about us. If he was paying for everything, would he have to sign anything or fill out any forms?

CLINIC: No, no. If he’s paying cash, he can just come with you when you come get your procedure, and he can pay the cash.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: So nobody has to know about him?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? So just try that phone number. And then if you decide to come up here and fill out that form, we can do it that way.

CALLER: Okay. Well, I haven’t had a pregnancy test yet. Would you guys do that there?

CLINIC: So you don’t even know if you’re pregnant or not?

CALLER: Well, I just haven’t had my period since like early January.

CLINIC: Do you have any symptoms?

CALLER: I don’t know.

CLINIC: Okay. Yeah, we do free tests if you want to come up here and get a test.

CALLER: Well, when do you do them?

CLINIC: Well, we close at 5. If you want to come up here today, just the next time you go to the bathroom, just get a sample of your urine and put it in a container with a lid. Bring it up here, and we’ll run it for you.

CALLER: Well, what time are you open tomorrow?

CLINIC: Tomorrow we open at 8:30, and we’ll be closing at 5.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, do you guys do birth control there?

CLINIC: No. We only can give birth control to our patients.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, where would I go to get birth control?

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood could help you there probably.

CALLER: Oh. But would they have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh. Okay. Well, okay. So what was your name?

CLINIC: My name’s Dawn.

CALLER: Okay. All right. So I can call you back if I have any questions?

CLINIC: Yeah, you can call back. And come up here for a test, if you need to, tomorrow. You could do that and, then at that same time, you can fill out the form if you don’t go through the court, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right.

CALLER: Thank you.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye bye.

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#788 – Trinity Valley Women’s Clinic in Fort Worth, TX

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TRINITY VALLEY WOMEN’S CLINIC
1325 S. MAIN ST.
FORT WORTH, TX 76104
817-335-6641

TAPE – 788

(Dialing, phone ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Trinity Valley Women’s Center. This is Linda. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: How far along are you?

CALLER: I’m not sure. How do you know?

CLINIC: By your first day of your last period.

CALLER: Oh. Well, that was January 3rd.

CLINIC: Okay. Let’s see. Okay, that’s putting you at about eight to nine weeks. And at that time you have the choice for a local or an IV sedation. A local is when they deaden the area with monocaine, but you will feel some cramping. They’ll give you a 10 milligram of valium to help relax you. That’s 305. Or you can have an IV sedation. That’s where you don’t remember the procedure itself, and that’s 390. And those prices do include the two-week check-up, a package of birth control pills if you want them, and your two take-home medications you’ll be on for a few days.

CALLER: Okay. Well, the thing is, I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. In the state of Texas you have to have parental consent.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Unfortunately, that’s the state law. Now, you’re how old?

CALLER: I’m going to be 14 on the 19th.

CLINIC: Okay. So you’re 13 now and he’s 22?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: What we have to do is have one of the parents come up here with their drivers license and sign an affidavit saying that they’re aware of your decision.

CALLER: Oh. Well, is there any way not to have to tell them at all?

CLINIC: You’d have to go to court and get a judicial bypass.

CALLER: Okay. Well, what is that?

CLINIC: It’s just a note from the judge saying that if you told your parents, that they would beat you or harm you in some way. You know, you have to have a really good reason why you wouldn’t want to tell them.

CALLER: Okay. How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: I have no idea. I can give you the name of the attorney that we go through, and she can help you with that. Her name is — I just talked to the receptionist over there. Okay. The number is 817-870-9159.

CALLER: Okay. And what was her name?

CLINIC: The attorney’s name is V.C. Cornish (ph). That’s her office, and I cannot remember for the life of me what that lady’s name is, her secretary. But anyway, just tell them you talked to Trinity Valley, and you want to know how to get a judicial bypass.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, do the judges always say yes?

CLINIC: I don’t know. We’ve never done one, to tell you the truth. Since this law’s been in effect, we’ve always had the girls, you know, come up with one of their parents.

CALLER: Oh. Well, it’s just me and my boyfriend were talking about all this, and we don’t want anyone to know about us. But he said he was going to pay for everything with cash. But would he have to fill out any forms or anything?

CLINIC: No. I mean, as far as payment goes, we don’t care who pays. It doesn’t matter to us who pays. But with your age and everything — Why can’t you tell your mother or dad?

CALLER: I can’t tell them at all. I mean, if they found out — Well, they know my boyfriend. I mean, he works with my dad, and they know we’re going out. But if they knew that we were having sex, I don’t know what they would do. They can’t find out about that at all.

CLINIC: Yeah. Oh, boy. He works with your dad?

CALLER: Well, yeah.

CLINIC: But how about your mother? How about telling your mom? You would be surprised at how understanding they can be.

CALLER: I don’t think so. I mean, they never listen to me. I mean, they don’t understand anything.

CLINIC: Do you have an aunt?

CALLER: No. I don’t have any family here.

CLINIC: Gosh. That is the only thing. You know, even if he was older, I mean, we have to see their drivers license. And we can’t prove that they’re not your mom or dad. They just have to swear on an affidavit here in our office that says that they are your parent. But like if he tried to do that — your boyfriend, he’s 22 and you’re 13 — that only would make him 9 when you were born. When you were born, he would be 9. So you can’t do that. But you see what I’m saying?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: I mean, there’s no way for us to know whether or not it’s your legal parent if you don’t tell us.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: You know, you have to have a person — Hang on just one second.

CALLER: Okay.

(pause)

CLINIC: Okay. You know, what I’m saying is, if you bring an adult up here and they’ll swear that they’re your parent, and they don’t tell me that they’re not your parent, I have no way of knowing or not.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: But they can’t be 20 years old and you’re 14. You see what I’m saying?

CALLER: Yeah, I see.

CLINIC: They have to be old enough to be your parent. And that’s the only way you can get by it. But if they walk in this door and say, “I’m not really her parent”, then I say “bye bye.”

CALLER: Well, maybe my boyfriend knows somebody.

CLINIC: I mean, you know, I’m not even suppose to be telling you this. But there’s no way that I can know for a fact that who you bring in here is not your mom or dad. See what I’m saying? If they’re old enough to be your parent.

CALLER: Yeah. Well, I haven’t had a pregnancy test yet. Would you guys do that beforehand just to make sure I was pregnant?

CLINIC: Yeah. If you want to come up here and do a pregnancy test, you don’t need to have parental consent for that, and it’s free.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Um-hmm.

CALLER: Okay. Well, when do you guys normally do that?

CLINIC: We could do it any day before 4:00.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you have any hours on Saturday?

CLINIC: No, we’re not open on Saturday.

CALLER: Okay. So anytime before 4:00 in the week?

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Monday through Friday.

CALLER: Well, how soon would I know that I’m pregnant or not?

CLINIC: About 10 minutes.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: Uh-huh. You pay $75 for a pap smear, then they’d put you on birth control pills and give you two free months supply. And then write you out a prescription for the remaining 10 months that you fill each month at the drug store.

CALLER: Okay. But my boyfriend can pay for that. That’s all taken care of. But would anyone have to know if I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: No. You don’t have to have parental consent for birth control.

CALLER: It’s just we don’t want to have to go through this again.

CLINIC: I understand that. Okay?

CALLER: So you’re sure nobody would have to know about me and my boyfriend or anything?

CLINIC: I’m sorry. What did you say?

CALLER: You’re sure no one would have to know about me and my boyfriend or anything?

CLINIC: Uh-uh.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: No. Not to do a pregnancy test or birth control pills. Anything but an abortion, nobody has to know.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Yeah. You don’t even have to show your I.D. when you do the pregnancy test.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if I had any other questions, could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Linda. I’ll be glad to talk to you. What’s your first name?

CALLER: Lisa.

CLINIC: Lisa?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay, Lisa. Just give me a call if I can help you, baby.

CALLER: Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: Okay. You’re welcome. Bye bye.


TAPE – 788 Pt 2: The Call Back

(Dialing, phone ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Trinity Valley Women’s Center. This is Linda. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi, yeah. I called yesterday and was asking some questions about getting an abortion. And my name is Lisa. Do you remember talking to me?

CLINIC: I think I do.

CALLER: Okay. Well, the thing is, I was talking to my boyfriend and I told him what you said about getting someone to come in that was old enough to look like my dad.

CLINIC: Yes, yes, yes.

CALLER: Well, he’s got an uncle who’s 50 who said he would do it. When he comes in, what should he say?

CLINIC: What you’ll do is come to the window and say that you have an appointment; my name is Lisa whatever, that you have an appointment. And then I’ll ask to see your I.D. Then I’ll say I need to see Dad’s I.D., and then he just hands me his I.D.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: And I make a copy of it. I make a copy of yours. And then a little while later, I call him back and he just signs the notary stating that he is your parent.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And the only time that would be a problem is if he tells me, “I’m not her parent.” Because I’m not — you know.

CALLER: Well, he said he would do it for my boyfriend.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, then as long as he doesn’t tell me he’s not your father, then we’re all right.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: All righty.

CALLER: So when should I come in?

CLINIC: Okay. Now, how far along are you?

CALLER: Well, you said yesterday like nine weeks. But I haven’t had a pregnancy test yet.

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: Well, should I do that first or —

CLINIC: Well, we do a pregnancy test here. And so you can either come ahead of time for the pregnancy test, or you can just do it all, if you know you’re pregnant and there’s no doubt about it.

CALLER: Well, does he have to come with me for the pregnancy test?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You can come until 4:30 today or on Monday from 8 to 4.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Just drop by and do a pregnancy test. And then if you want to do a sonogram to determine how far along that you are, you can do that too. That’s $100, and we deduct it from the price of the procedure. If you want to. If not, you can just wait until you schedule. But when you come in to do the pregnancy test, they’ll schedule your appointment when you find out that it’s positive. Then they’ll schedule you an appointment. And just tell them you’ll be bringing your dad.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: And that’s all you need to do.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: All righty, sweetie. You know how to get here?

CALLER: Yeah. So I don’t have to bring him for the pregnancy test then?

CLINIC: No. The only —

CALLER: Just after it’s positive.

CLINIC: Yes. When you bring him for the actual procedure, he just has to wait until I get him to sign the notary, and then he can leave. Or he can come at anytime and show me his license. If that’s not convenient for him to come during the appointment, ya’ll can come ahead of time and sign.

CALLER: Oh, all right. But my boyfriend could be with me for the pregnancy test and the procedure?

CLINIC: No. They can’t go back with you, but he can sit in the lobby.

CALLER: Oh, okay. So they can both be there?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Yeah. And if he wants to get it over with and sign the papers then, he can. Just ask for Danielle or me. I won’t be here Monday, but Danielle will be. And I’ll tell her about it.

CALLER: And you’re sure that nobody would ask about my boyfriend?

CLINIC: Ask about him?

CALLER: Right.

CLINIC: No. They wouldn’t ask anything about him.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Uh-uh, he doesn’t have to show his I.D. or anything.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Let me tell you when Danielle will be here, because she’s the notary. Are you coming Monday to do this?

CALLER: I’ll try. I think so.

CLINIC: Okay. If you’re coming Monday to do this, Danielle won’t be here until about noon, from noon to 4:30. So you’ll have to come between noon and 4.

CALLER: Okay. And if it turned out I was pregnant, then we’ll schedule the abortion?

CLINIC: Yeah. And if he comes with you, he can sign the notary and get it over with; then he doesn’t have to come back.

CALLER: So it would be better if he came to the pregnancy test then?

CLINIC: I think so.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And then he could sign the notary and be done with it. And then you’re set to go, and your boyfriend can bring you in for the actual abortion and he doesn’t even have to be involved.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: And we don’t ask for his I.D. once we got the notary papers.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right, thanks.

CLINIC: We’re located at 1325 South Main.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay. We’ll see you then. Your name is Lisa, right?

CALLER: Right.

CLINIC: Okay. I’ll tell Danielle.

CALLER: Okay, thanks.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

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